Coat over preshading? Preshade again?

Cenebar · Post by **Cenebar** » Mon May 09, 2005 5:30 am

I preshaded my model with black and then added the final coat on top.

However, I noticed that the coat hid a lot of the black preshading underneath.

So should I just preshade with black again and forget another top coat, preshade with black and spray another top coat, OR use a black wash to get into all the nooks and crannies and forget another layer of preshading?

Thanks.

Kylwell · Post by **Kylwell** » Mon May 09, 2005 9:31 am

The pre-shading should be somewhat subtile. Depending on the look you're going for. Then gloss coat it and use a wash to bring out all those niddly bits of detail and deepen the black of the panel lines.

Post by **TER-OR** » Mon May 09, 2005 9:30 pm

Zing!
To finishing with this thread. Plenty of painting threads here.

I find preshading doesn't really work well with acrylics. With a hot solvent paint, the overcoat will 'eat' into the lower layer. This doesn't happen with acrylic.

Here's a thread covering this:
http://starshipmodeler.net/cgi-bin/phpB ... hp?t=25689

Cenebar · Post by **Cenebar** » Thu May 12, 2005 7:22 pm

Thanks, gentlemen

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Tony Agustin · Post by **Tony Agustin** » Thu May 12, 2005 7:29 pm

I sort of 'over thin' my acrylic top coat till they are almost translucent. That way the preshade underneath can still show thru.

Kylwell · Post by **Kylwell** » Thu May 12, 2005 7:40 pm

Well, I don't know how anybody else pre-shades, but I use acrylics and have no issues with it.

First, paint all nooks & panel lines black or very dak version of the main color. Then, starting from the center of open areas start filling in the open areas til you have a strongly two tone model. Then, cuttin back on the paint flow and increasing the distance, start working into the shaded areas, pulling back to ghost back the black to what'er shade you want.

Or at least that's how I do it.

Cenebar · Post by **Cenebar** » Fri May 13, 2005 4:42 pm

Problem with some acrylics is that they change color after drying. I noticed this with Gunze.

It goes on flat at first. Then a day later, the preshading shows. Then two days later, it turns semi-gloss, bright, and looks wet. Five days later, it's satin, smooth, even, and looks great.

So sometimes it's really hard to tell how a painted model will look right away.

Post by **TER-OR** » Fri May 13, 2005 10:30 pm

A lot of paints will change color as they cure. I've noticed this less with Gunze than with PolyScale and Testors. Also, less with gloss than flat.

You're right, though, it's all a matter of experience. You won't know until you try.